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Very old long-abandoned house off from Lockie Road, St. Lawrence County
Taken on 04/15/08
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Very, very old stone house past the end of the Lockie Road and in the Pleasant Lake Wildlife Area, St. Lawrence County.  This is the standing front section
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See notes and map at bottom of this page for more info.
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Comments from visitors:
Rod R. "The remains of the scotch settlement house are located in the Pleasant Lake Wild Forest area off the Scotch Settlement Road. It is a ways back off the trail. The work that must have gone into it is amazing. In the immediate area are also signs of the old farmstead including a small orchard and several small fields."
06/25/2008 Rod R. follows-up with; "I've done some additional research on it and found that it may have once belonged to the family of a James Lockie who came from Scotland between 1819 and 1830."
On 5/1/13 Jan writes "I just loved seeing these old photos.. I am a descendant of a James Lockie born 1813 in Parish of Maxton, County of Roxburgh, North Britain, living in Rossie, NYS 1850 with wife Elizabeth Faichney. Not sure if they are one in the same, nd I am not aware of when James Lockie arrived in the area. I do have more information on other Lockie family members. Amazing to think they may have resided in this house!"
According to 'Briarscratch' it was built by Scottish immigrants sometime between 1830 and 1860.
Taken on 04/15/08
According to 'Briarscratch' (who originally sent me a photo of this house) said that it was built by Scottish immigrants sometime between 1830 and 1860.  He writes that the Lockie family came over around 1818 from the Roxburghshire area of southern Scotland. Lockie is a Scottish derivation of Lucas.
Using my GPS receiver I measured the foundation, which consists of three cellar sections.  Total length of all three cellar section was about 82 feet.  The above part, which is mostly standing, is the center section.
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Comments from visitors:
From Lnr Mck (via Flickr.com): "What an incredible find."
On 12/11/11 Rockinout88 (via Flickr.com) wrote :"There is ruins such as above near here (waddington) somewhere..but I have yet to find them." 


Artwork using this photo can be found on this page.
Looking up at the front
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Looking up at the front
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Doorway, looking from the front intact section
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Doorway, looking from the front intact section

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A remaining side section
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A remaining side section

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Opposite side from the previous pic.
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Opposite side from the previous pic.

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Side-view
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Side-view
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From comac1103 (via Flickr.com): "Another excellent view; you have some superb shots on the site my friend."
Another side-view, slightly different angle.
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Another side-view, slightly different angle.
The remains of something metal was sitting here (seen at the bottom of the picture beside my backpack).  Maybe a burning barrel, or something newer?
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Shot taken from inside middle of the foundation, looking toward the front
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Shot taken from inside middle of the foundation, looking toward the front

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Closer view of the inside of the front section
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Closer view of the inside of the front section
You can see the inside of the old fireplaces, all three floors (including cellar).
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Close-up view of stonework
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Close-up view of stonework

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Close-up of doorway in front part, leading to front cellar section
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Close-up of doorway in front part, leading to front cellar section
Notice that the remaining wood over the doorway shows signs of fire damage.
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Comments from visitors:
From comac1103 (via Flickr.com): "What a wonderful series of shots of this place; these are outstanding shots my friend."
The cellar fireplace and first floor fireplace can be seen here
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The cellar fireplace and first floor fireplace can be seen here

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Another view
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Another view
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Comments from visitors:
From bergendahlc (via Flickr.com): "Hi, from my swedish point of view this is a charming pic."

From KeenTurtle (via Flickr.com): "What a treasure."
Precarious door-top stone on side wall
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Precarious door-top stone on side wall

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Stones and depressions, what looks like something that may have been one of the out-buildings.  A barn?  So old that it looks like nothing more then jumbled stones.
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Stones and depressions, what looks like something that may have been one of the out-buildings.  A barn?  So old that it looks like nothing more then jumbled stones.

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A view through the brush.
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A view through the brush.

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Another view through the brush.
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Another view through the brush.
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Comments from visitors:
From comac1103 (via Flickr.com): "Outstanding shot of this wonderful old place!!!!!!!"

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Nearby is another depression or hole, right beside a very old tree.  Beside it is a small cast iron hand wheel sort-of-thing.  The outhouse hole, or well?
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Nearby is another depression or hole, right beside a very old tree.  Beside it is a small cast iron hand wheel sort-of-thing.  The outhouse hole, or well?

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Map for getting to the Scotch Settlement House, click for full map
Map by Rod R. for directions to location of this ruin, click for full map

 

 

Scotch Settlement Road/Lockie Road Aerial Map
Aerial map showing ruins
Site map
Site map
The website visitor 'Briarscratch' originally submitted a very excellent photo of what he called the "Scotch Settlement House".  He said it was built sometime between 1830 and 1860.  Also see 'Burned out stone house on Scotch Settlement Road, St. Lawrence County' on the previous page.
I had always wanted to get out and take more photos of this house and a few years later, via this website, another visitor - Rod R. - sent me info and a map on how to find this building.  The map for directions as well as the site map are above.
I set out to find this house and any surrounding ruins one day in mid-April 2008, once the weather got nicer.  After updating the maps in my GPS and selecting the location to find via the GPS (according to Rod's map) I had little trouble finding the Pleasant Lake Wildlife Area's parking lot on the small and kinda rough dirt road called the Lockie Road, off from the Scotch Settlement Road near the Rossie/Oxbow area.  I had to park the car a distance away from the parking area as I didn't think my car would make it the last little distance because of the rough road.
Once at the parking area the DEC land sign was visible and little else.  The trail lead into the pines, just as Rod R. describes in his map.  A short trip over a short swampy area (the remains of some sort of metal piece of equipment is sitting in the swamp, farm-related?).
In the pines the trail itself is overgrown and hard to even find after a bit.  But I headed in the likely direction that the trail seemed to be heading toward but it was quickly gone.  Fortunately a quick look around was all I needed.
There it was, a short distance away - the ruins were easily seen.  An incredible and beautiful ruined gem.
I did a quick walk-around as well as went inside (if you can call it "inside", there's little left in the way of walls).  I also walked around it a bit and found what seem to be the extremely old ruins of other buildings, hard to even believe that they are ruins and not just natural formations (see above).  One is larger, a barn perhaps.  Another seemed to be not very wide but quite long.  This one had just remains of wood and a depression.
Nearby are also the remains of some clearings (on the edge of a small cliff and near a stream), some depressions that were probably wells and outhouses, etc.  Beside one depression, a little further from the house is a small hand-wheel sort of thing (see photo above).  Beside the house sits a large piece of metal (see photo above, sitting beside my backpack); a burning barrel, or maybe something that was brought in more recently by partiers or hunters?
What remains of the building itself is mostly white sparkly granite interspaced with what also looks like a softer stone, sandstone maybe, mixed in.  The majority of the building has collapsed inward, with what was probably the front still mostly standing, and part of the sides.  Very little of the back is standing and there seem to be three cellar sections.  The front cellar section has a large, very old tree growing out of it - showing just how old these ruins are and how long they have probably been abandoned.
Likely the front and rear sections of cellar had wooden structures over them, the middle being the stone.  Above the doorways are some remaining pieces of wood, which all look charred.  Possibly the building had burned?
There are no remains of any roads near it, except for the Lockie Road quite a distance out.
After taking many, many photos; marking the location with my GPS; and also taking a lot of video (which will be added soon) I reluctantly headed back to the car - wondering about the story behind this house and the people who built and lived there.
'Briarscratch' has contacted me again with lots of information that he has researched on this great old house.


Below is an article from the Wednesday April 20, 1927 edition of the Gouverneur Free Press about the fire that destroyed this house many years ago (thanks to 'Briarscratch' for finding this on the site
http://news.nnyln.net):

300 Acres of Lockie Farm Swept By Fire

Buildings are Destroyed by Stubborn Blaze Which Last Days - Small Army of Men Finally Subdue Flames


An Army of farmers and farm hands last Wednesday afternoon gained the upper hand and finally conquered a forest and grass fire which had been raging for a week on the William Lockie farm, town of Rossie, about a mile from Pleasant Lake, and which in the sweep consumed a large cow barn and farm house on the premises. Upwards of 300 acres of land on the farm were burned over.

The farm buildings were unoccupied except that the barn, one of the largest in that section, housed valuable farming machinery, tools and about ten tons of hay. The farm had not been operated since the death of Mr. Lockie about four years ago, since which time Mrs. Lockie had made her home with her brother-in-law, James Lockie, in Rossie village.

The fire smoldered for several days before sufficient wind came to spread it. Once it had started, it spread with great rapidity and neighbors found after battling the flames for one or two days that they were unable to cope with it.

The fire reached patch after patch of woodland where light timber stood and it swept the trees before it. It continued on its way and finally reached the hilly portion of the farm when it became noticeable to others in the section. A summons was sent to Fire Warden Walter Johnson. He inspected the situation and finally corralled a force of 15 or 20 men to fight it. For a time on Monday it appeared that they had gotten the upper hand on it, but Monday night a steady wind fanned it to the extent that it again reached great proportions and spread with great speed.

On Tuesday the fire swerved its direction towards the farm buildings and at 12:30 in the afternoon both buildings were afire. An effort was made to remove the tools and machinery in the barn but the fire raged so fiercely that men could not bear the heat and finally gave up their task. They then turned to protecting other buildings in the vicinity and succeeded. The Farm house and barn on the Mary Lockie farm were threatened, but the desperate work of the small army of firemen prevented their destruction.

Neighbors in the vicinity of the Lockie farm are inclined to be far apart in their estimates of the area burned over. Some place the acreage swept by fire at 100, while others say a tract of at least 865 acres was burned over.

The fire fighters fought bitterly throughout the night Tuesday and all day Wednesday until about 4 p.m. when the last spark of the fire was extinguished. They fought with brush, shovels, rakes, picks and every conceivable weapon in an effort to subdue the blaze. Ditches and long trenches were thrown up in heir battle but when the fire reached them it leaped them without difficulty and continued on its way.

On Tuesday forenoon persons who watched it declare that between 9 a.m. and 12 noon it swept over more than four miles in one direction. It was at that time that the buildings on the Lockie property were consumed.

The Lockie farm at one time was regarded as one of of the best in the vicinity. In late years, however, it has fallen into disuse and available lands had not been pastured, and this condition aided the fire in its spread. The farm contains 506 acres and it is estimated by some that nearly four-fifths was swept by the fire.

The farm is situated near the Scotch Settlement Road of the town of Rossie, two and a half miles east of the village of Rossie.

No estimate of the value of the property or the monetary loss to the owner could be obtained.

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